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leon10tagg
01-06-2012, 05:48 PM
Anyone have a source for 11mm pumps to suit a 1.9tdi VW?

leon10tagg
05-06-2012, 10:09 AM
Got sorted just bought a Iveco Daily Bosch pump to remove the 12mm head to fit to my pump.

con67
05-06-2012, 10:24 AM
No one has modded the 10mm that comes on them? Try getting more flow from the 10.....

leon10tagg
05-06-2012, 03:51 PM
OK my explanation was a bit poor.....basically I've bought an Iveco Daily 2.8td pump (0460 424 177). The 12mm head from that mechanical pump will be removed and fitted to a spare 10mm (038 130 107d) pump that I have. The work will involve the installation of the correct size Bosch shim/s to reduce the possibility of the head floating at high rpm and basically wrecking itself. The installation of the 12mm pump head in conjunction with the standard 10mm cam plate and 11mm springs will be adequate for my needs in terms of fuelling. This is a tried and tested upgrade for the VP37 pump, however it would appear that very few people in NI are running such a modification on a 1.9tdi VW motor. It is normally commonplace to find this sort of mod carried out on a mechanical pump.....I don't know why but I have been told that it will work, however its ability to sustain long periods of high rpm will not be as good as the standard 11mm pump....but then I can't currently get another one unless I go for an outright buy on a Bosch refurbished one, which is to expensive considering I have a new high lift long duration cam on its way from Newmans and I'm saving for a big valve head at present to hit the power figures I need.

Also these pumps are regularly modified by the tractor pullers by fitting after market 14mm pump heads, however the quality of the non-OEM parts would appear to be dubious as most don't last too long.

leon10tagg
17-06-2012, 09:15 AM
12mm Frankenpump now built.

fynnbar
17-06-2012, 01:54 PM
Keep us informed...

leon10tagg
17-06-2012, 02:49 PM
The donor 12mm pump 0460 424 177 from an Iveco Daily 2.8td.....standard mechanical pump with no EDC.....
http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww100/leon10tagg/IMAG0763.jpg

Pump head removed with DE643 cam plate still in position...
http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww100/leon10tagg/IMAG0766.jpg

All parts removed from the donor 12mm pump ready to build into the 10mm pump....cam plate, head, plunger and shims and springs.....
http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww100/leon10tagg/IMAG0770.jpg

The DE643 and DE110 (standard fitment on the 10mm pump) cam plates for comparision....
http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww100/leon10tagg/IMAG0776.jpg

Another shot for comparision of the cam plates...its just about possible to see the slightly more agressive lift of the DE643 cam plate......
http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww100/leon10tagg/IMAG0779.jpg

The completed 12mm Frankenpump......should be good for a bit more fuel and some more hp...
http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww100/leon10tagg/IMAG0783.jpg

However after having built the pump up I've now been told that the DE643 cam plate does not have the best profile to achieve max. fuelling from this set up. However the DE143 cam plate from the 11mm (107J) pump is the one to fit, which has a much more agressive profile but it can cause excessive wear on the rollers so the standard DE110 cam plate out of the 10mm pump (107D) is a good compromise, however it won't provide maximum fuelling.

So tomorrow I'll be ordering the DE143 camplate (Bosch Part no. 2 466 110 143) from Transport Supplies. After that I'll have to dismantle and then rebuild the pump again :( .

In addition, I'll be swapping the 12mm head springs with the 10mm springs as they are supposed to be stronger and reduce the possibility of the heavier head floating at high rpm.

whitey_206hdi
20-04-2015, 05:37 PM
Thread resurrection but I'm looking to improve the fueling capacity of my vp37 6 cylinder pump for bmw tds. Anyone know a cheap and easy place to get the 12mm rotor head to suit this pump and anything else that might be good to get more fuel out of it.

timbo_1975
02-05-2015, 12:29 PM
The donor 12mm pump 0460 424 177 from an Iveco Daily 2.8td.....standard mechanical pump with no EDC.....
http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww100/leon10tagg/IMAG0763.jpg

Pump head removed with DE643 cam plate still in position...
http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww100/leon10tagg/IMAG0766.jpg

All parts removed from the donor 12mm pump ready to build into the 10mm pump....cam plate, head, plunger and shims and springs.....
http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww100/leon10tagg/IMAG0770.jpg

The DE643 and DE110 (standard fitment on the 10mm pump) cam plates for comparision....
http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww100/leon10tagg/IMAG0776.jpg

Another shot for comparision of the cam plates...its just about possible to see the slightly more agressive lift of the DE643 cam plate......
http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww100/leon10tagg/IMAG0779.jpg

The completed 12mm Frankenpump......should be good for a bit more fuel and some more hp...
http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww100/leon10tagg/IMAG0783.jpg

However after having built the pump up I've now been told that the DE643 cam plate does not have the best profile to achieve max. fuelling from this set up. However the DE143 cam plate from the 11mm (107J) pump is the one to fit, which has a much more agressive profile but it can cause excessive wear on the rollers so the standard DE110 cam plate out of the 10mm pump (107D) is a good compromise, however it won't provide maximum fuelling.

So tomorrow I'll be ordering the DE143 camplate (Bosch Part no. 2 466 110 143) from Transport Supplies. After that I'll have to dismantle and then rebuild the pump again :( .

In addition, I'll be swapping the 12mm head springs with the 10mm springs as they are supposed to be stronger and reduce the possibility of the heavier head floating at high rpm.


What sort, if any re-mapping will you be doing to match the bigger head to the motor?

tin
03-06-2015, 06:13 PM
Nice to see the franken pump! Have you any results from the swap? How much did the donor pump cost you? I will likely be installing a 12mm plunger and head sometime in the future as well. Currently I can't get mine to rev after rebuilding :(